Obamacare expansion was never paid for with “Ohio money”

Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare cost federal taxpayers $11 billion in just three years, but Kasich insisted the new spending was “Ohio money” he was “bringing back” from DC.

Note the difference: If Kasich’s Obamacare expansion is paid for with “Ohio money” as opposed to new federal spending, Kasich can still credibly claim to be a fiscal conservative.

It’s not. And he can’t — as should be clear from the governor’s lobbying Congress to keep funding Obamacare expansion.

Here are just some of the times Kasich either clearly insinuated or explicitly stated that all of the taxpayer funds spent on his federally-funded Medicaid expansion was “Ohio money.”

January 28, 2016: Fox News/Google Republican Presidential Debate, Des Moines, Iowa
“And then we decided we could bring $14 billion of OUR money – I mean, Washington doesn’t have any money, it was OUR money – we brought ’em back to tend to the mentally ill because I don’t think they oughta live in prison or live under a bridge; to treat the drug-addicted so they’re not in a in-and-out-of-the-door policy outta the prisons; and to help the working poor so they don’t live in emergency rooms.”
August 31, 2015: WDIV-TV, Detroit
“Look, the fact that I do care about poor people, and that I’ve chosen to take some of the federal dollars that we send to Washington, to bring them back, has not only a moral side to it but also an arithmetic.”
August 2, 2015: Fox News Sunday (Fox News Channel)
“Well first of all, I’m opposed to Obamacare and I’ve been clear on that. Medicaid has been expanded, was expanded by Ronald Reagan I think three or four times. […] In regard to Medicaid, however, two points: One, we bring our money back to treat people here in Ohio, cause the federal government has no money […]”
August 1, 2015: Fox and Friends (Fox News Channel)
“I’m not for Obamacare and I didn’t join forces with the president — all I know is that Ronald Reagan expanded Medicaid I think about three times, and I had a chance to bring Ohio money back to Ohio. And to me it’s a conservative principle, Ed[…]”
July 28, 2015: The Situation Room (CNN)
“Look, you know, Ronald Reagan expanded Medicaid, I don’t know, three or four times, Wolf, and we’re bringing 14 billion over 7 years back to Ohio to treat the — to treat the mentally ill, the drug-addicted and to help the working poor get on their feet. I think it’s — and it’s working here in Ohio.”
July 25, 2015: NPR interview
“[…] Ronald Reagan expanded Medicaid a number of times and he didn’t need Obamacare, ok? And my feeling about Medicaid is we’ve been able to manage this program, and by bringing Ohio money back to Ohio to treat the mentally ill, the drug-addicted and the working poor, we’re not only ahead on an arithmetic basis but we think it’s the right issue in terms of giving people a chance and an ability to be lifted.”
July 22, 2015: Kasich 2016 Town Hall, Portsmouth, NH
“I get criticized because I took money, Ohio money from Washington to Ohio, to treat the mentally ill, the drug-addicted and the working poor. […] The reason why I brought that money back – it’s called expanding Medicaid, let me just explain it to you […]”
July 21, 2015: Hannity (Fox News Channel)
“First of all, we brought our money back to Ohio, 14 billion…”
July 14, 2015: Speakeasy with John Harwood (CNBC)
“There is no money in Washington, it’s money we send from our state of Ohio to Washington that I was able to bring back to help the mentally ill get on their feet.”
July 7, 2015: Special Report (Fox News Channel)
“We brought Ohio money back to Ohio to treat the mentally ill […] But we’re all made in the image of the Lord, and I think that by us bringing those resources back, our people – there’s no money in Washington. It’s our money. We brought it back to Ohio and we’re fixing vexing problems.”
June 28, 2015: Face the Nation (CBS)
“In regard to Medicaid, you know, I think there we ought to be block-granting money back to the states so states can be empowered to treat the poor. And we’re going to ask for some waivers in that program. But what’s most important there is I brought Ohio money back to treat the mentally ill, the drug addicted, and to help the working poor so they’re not in the emergency rooms. And so our mentally ill and drug addicted are not in prison.”
June 24, 2015: Greater Des Moines Partnership Candidate Forum, Des Moines, IA
“…we brought a lot of our money back from Washington to begin to treat these people.”
June 18, 2015: Fox & Friends (Fox News Channel)
“By bringing money back from Washington to Ohio, I can help treat the mentally ill. […] Getting our money back – so-called expanding Medicaid – has allowed me to give everybody a chance, to get ’em on their feet […] All it is, is bringing the money that taxpayers send to Washington and bringing it back to our states.”
June 15, 2015: Capital Tonight, Time Warner Cable News Central NC, Charlotte, NC
“We’ve taken $14 billion over the next seven years back to our state, of Ohio money that we sent to Washington.”
June 5, 2015: NPR
“It’s not federal money. I decided to bring Ohio money back to Ohio, because there is no federal money. In Washington, they think there’s federal money, but it’s what we send to Washington.”
May 28, 2015: Alan Colmes Show (Fox News Radio)
“I expanded Medicaid because I can bring $14 billion of Ohio money back to Ohio”
May 27, 2015: The Lead with Jake Tapper (CNN)
“I don’t support Obamacare, I wanna repeal it, but I did expand Medicaid, because I was able to bring Ohio money back home […] expanding Medicaid is a separate issue, [Supreme Court Chief Justice] John Roberts gave all the states the ability to decide that, and I’m gonna bring $14 billion of Ohio money back to Ohio”
May 26, 2015: New Day for America campaign stop, Fulton County, GA
“Now I went and brought 14 billion, I’m in the process of bringing $14 billion back from Washington to help solve – it’s our money, it’s Ohio money, there’s no money in Washington, by the way, it’s all ours, we send it there – so I’m bringing as much of mine as I can get back […] Here’s how it works: again, we brought, we are bringing back $14 billion. The first, I don’t know, 2, 3, 4 years, the federal government just sends our money back, which is our money.”
May 2, 2015: National Review Institute Ideas Summit, Washington, DC (interview with Heritage Foundation economist Stephen Moore)
“Well first of all, I’m for getting rid of Obamacare because it’s a top-down plan. The last person who expanded Medicaid was a Republican, and happened to be Ronald Reagan. Now, what I’ve done is, I got a chance to bring Ohio money back to Ohio to solve some of our most vexing problems. […] What are we doing with this money that we’re bringing back that’s Ohio money? Well first of all, we’re putting it in our local communities to treat the mentally ill.”
May 1, 2015: Christian Science Monitor Breakfast, Washington, DC
“Let’s just get to the nub of Medicaid, ok? First of all, ya know, the last Republican that I can think of who expanded Medicaid was Ronald Reagan, people tend to forget that. Here’s what I’m faced with, and if other people don’t wanna take the money, that’s up to them: I got money I can bring home to Ohio. It’s my money – there’s no money in Washington, it’s my money. It’s the money of the people who live in my state.”
April 24, 2015: New America 2015 annual conference, Washington, DC (interview with CNN host Gloria Borger)
“My goal is to take these folks, and get our money back from Washington, 14 billion to help our local communities to deal with these folks.”
April 23, 2015: The Atlantic Summit on the Economy, Washington, DC (interview with ABC host Jon Karl)
“I wanna take 14 billion of Ohio money back to Ohio, away from Washington, in this whole Medicaid thing.”
March 31, 2015: The Sean Hannity Show
“I’m not for Obamacare — I never have been. I have been in favor of bringing Ohioans’ money back to Ohio, which is Medicaid expansion.”
January 22, 2015: Special Report with Bret Baier (Fox News Channel)
“I brought Ohio’s dollars back to Ohio to deal with the mentally ill and the drug-addicted”
January 21, 2015: Balanced Budget Forever press conference, Helena, MT
“John Roberts gave me an opportunity in the Supreme Court for the state to make a decision as to whether they want to reclaim this money or not. There’s no money in Washington, it’s my money, okay? And so, I brought my money back to Ohio.”
January 21, 2015: Meeting with Republican state legislators in Helena, MT
“Well, I mean first of all, we have an opportunity to bring our money back from Washington to Ohio.”
January 20, 2015: Meeting with Republican state legislators in Pierre, SD
“Well, the first thing is that the money that we in Ohio send to Washington is not somebody’s money down there, it’s our money. John Roberts and the Supreme Court said that states could decide whether they wanted to expand Medicaid.”
December 7, 2014: This Week with George Stephanopoulos (ABC)
“Now on Medicaid expansion, I’m able to bring Ohio money back to Ohio – cause I know what they do with it in Washington – and I can use it to treat the mentally ill, I can use it to treat the drug-addicted. Why wouldn’t I do that, George? That’s common sense, to me.”
November 19, 2014 Republican Governors Association annual meeting, Boca Raton, FL
“Now, I can get my money back from Washington – and I want it back in Ohio because I know what they do with it in Washington. And, I get to bring that money back, and I get to free up money at the local level so that the mentally ill, the drug-addicted, the working poor and a much broader set of services are available to people that live in the shadows[…]”
October 14, 2014 Dix Newspapers interview
“Look, I have a chance to bring $14 billion of Ohio dollars back to Ohio. Unfortunately, I happen to know how they spending money in Washington, so I wanted to get it back here.”
September 18, 2014 Gannett interview (no longer available online)
“Ya know, it was a very easy decision for me – ya know, I get a chance to bring $14 billion of Ohio money back here, to give to our local partners who are dealing with some of the toughest issues.”
March 23, 2014: Fox News Sunday (Fox News Channel)
“I have a chance to bring back $14 billion in Ohio dollars back to Ohio, to do what? To strengthen our local communities as they treat the most significant problem of drug addiction and the problem of mental illness.”
March 18, 2014: Your World with Neil Cavuto (Fox News Channel)
“I had a chance to bring $14 billion of Ohioans’ money back […] we get that money back here to Ohio and deal with some of our significant problems, that’s the right thing to do”
November 15, 2013: The O’Reilly Factor (Fox News Channel)
“I had a chance to bring Ohio money back to Ohio […] if I don’t bring Ohio money back, they’re not gonna put it in a piggy bank […] I have a chance to bring $14 billion out of Washington to me, to the people here in my state who need this help”
October 27, 2013: Meet the Press (NBC)
“I’ve articulated my opposition to Obamacare. But Chief Justice Roberts gave every state an opportunity to try to get federal dollars to improve Medicaid. […] So Ohio gets a good deal. We get $14 billion of Ohio money back to Ohio to deal with some of the most serious problems.”
August 26, 2013: Joel Riley Show (610 WTVN Columbus)
“Well, the Medicaid expansion is different than Obamacare. Basically, what we wanna do is to be able to bring back $14 billion of our money, Ohio taxpayer money, to distribute to people who treat folks who are addicted, the alcohol and drug community organizations.”
July 9, 2013: Medicaid expansion rally, Ohio Statehouse
“…but I don’t want our dollars to be spent somewhere else, cause, ya know, I worked in Washington long enough to know they never save anything. And secondly, their inability – their inability – to solve a problem that ultimately will be solved in a responsible way should not prevent Ohio from reclaiming our dollars to deal with our problem.”
February 19, 2013: Ohio Governor’s 2013 State of the State address
“We should not shoot ourselves in the foot and send our tax dollars to another state to be spent […] if we don’t do what we should do on Medicaid, they’ll be spending it in California. You count on it. […] We have an unprecedented opportunity to bring $13 billion of Ohio’s tax dollars back to Ohio to solve our problem.”
February 6, 2013: Protecting The Ohio Model, RedState guest post
“Now I’ve proposed extending Medicaid health coverage to low-income and working poor Ohioans, in part, to limit further damage from Obamacare. Without this move Obamacare is likely to increase health insurance premiums even higher in Ohio. Worse, it takes $13 billion of Ohioans’ federal tax dollars out of our state and gives it to other states—where it will go to work helping to rev up some other state’s economy instead of Ohio’s. That’s what happens if expansion doesn’t happen in Ohio.”

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